NEWS: Kaori Yuki Launches Angel Sanctuary: Tokyo Chronos Manga on April 20th – Forum – 71Bait

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:54am Reply with a quote

Great news! I intend to read the manga.

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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:33am Reply with a quote
Oh man, Angel Sanctuary. It was never my favorite Yuki Kaori work (that’s Shounen zanzou and Earl Cain, that incredibly hot mess that I don’t think ever got the attention and respect it absolutely deserved), but I remember it having read it – although I can hardly remember anything about the story, only that it sort of collapsed on itself at the end like those overly ambitious melodramas do, that particular “that stopped making sense two volumes ago, and I don’t think I fully understand yet what’s going on and how it’s even relevant, but damn it if it’s not really dramatic.” I don’t think I’ll read it again, but I’m looking forward to this new part.

However, I’m wondering why there’s a sequel/spinoff right now. (And why not Cain?! All Cain got was a few pages of the epilogue long ago that provided a full conclusion, not a mass.)

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Viz Media also published Yuki’s Count Cain, The Cain Sagafairy dice, godchildand Grand Guignol Orchestra Manga in English.

wait what Why is Cain mentioned three times in the list? :O

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post OfficePosted: Monday April 11, 2022 12:17 pm Reply with a quote

SHD wrote:


wait what Why is Cain mentioned three times in the list? :O

…Well, Godchild and Count Cain are two separate series released years apart, with one being a direct sequel to the other. But the two together are called The Cain Saga, and it’s a bit odd that the ANN encyclopedia entry doesn’t seem to reflect that. If I remember correctly the original Count Cain series was called that and then the label “The Cain Saga” was added to include Godchild after their debut. The Cain Saga should only be treated as a franchise site linking the other two related series like Gundam or whatever. To add to the confusion, Kaine is a completely independent work and has never been published in English.

Anyway! I’m really looking forward to this new release. Angel Sanctuary is a series that I used to really enjoy and it gives me a reason to pluck it off my shelves and read it again. I’ve always lamented the lack of a true anime adaptation for this (3 episode OVA for 20 books pffft), so one might happen if there is enough interest in this new series.


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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:28pm Reply with a quote
A new Sanctuary of Angels?! Count me in!

I still have all the volumes of the original series, which is as insanely twisted as it is oddly beautiful (not to mention creative/imaginative in ways you wouldn’t believe). Maybe it will be re-released should this new series be licensed? It’s an outspoken classic that deserves to be read and remembered. In any case, I’m really looking forward to Kaori Yuki’s sequel!


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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:39pm Reply with a quote

Triltaison wrote:
SHD wrote:


wait what Why is Cain mentioned three times in the list? :O

…Well, Godchild and Count Cain are two separate series released years apart, with one being a direct sequel to the other. But the two together are called The Cain Saga, and it’s a bit odd that the ANN encyclopedia entry doesn’t seem to reflect that. If I remember correctly the original Count Cain series was called that and then the label “The Cain Saga” was added to include Godchild after their debut. The Cain Saga should only be treated as a franchise site linking the other two related series like Gundam or whatever. To add to the confusion, Kaine is a completely independent work and has never been published in English.

I don’t know about current editions, but as far as US releases go, Viz released the first four Count Cain (UK has no censuses) Stories in five volumes as The Cain Saga and godchild as its own title. (They also started publishing godchild before the earlier books.) I don’t see “Saga” branding on Japanese releases, it seems The Cain Saga is just the title viz used for everything before godchild.

I am looking forward to more Sanctuary of Angelsalthough I can’t imagine what more bizarre revelations could top the existing ending.


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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:51pm Reply with a quote

AQuin1904 wrote:

[Idon’tseeany”saga”brandingonJapanesereleasessoitseemslikethat[Idon’tseeany”saga”brandingonJapanesereleasessoitseeemslike[Ichsehekein”Saga”-BrandingaufjapanischenVeröffentlichungenalsoscheintesso[Idon’tseeany”saga”brandingonJapanesereleasessoitseemslikeThe Cain Saga is just the title viz used for everything before godchild.

Yes that’s right. The saga thing was advertised in Shojo Beat magazine back then as the continued adventures of Cain or something. They hired Godchild in the magazine and started producing promos for the other as a prequel around this time. You’re right that it was a definite Viz thing, but it was advertised like it was a franchise. Probably just in preparation in case Godchild gets a sequel too.


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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:18pm Reply with a quote

Triltaison wrote:
SHD wrote:


wait what Why is Cain mentioned three times in the list? :O

…Well, Godchild and Count Cain are two separate series released years apart, with one being a direct sequel to the other. But the two together are called The Cain Saga, and it’s a bit odd that the ANN encyclopedia entry doesn’t seem to reflect that. If I remember correctly the original Count Cain series was called that and then the label “The Cain Saga” was added to include Godchild after their debut. The Cain Saga should only be treated as a franchise site linking the other two related series like Gundam or whatever.

…well, if that was the logic behind the English release then it’s… pretty weird and doesn’t make much sense. It’s definitely not a case of “related series in the same franchise” or anything, there is an actual overarching storyline going on in there! Yes, there was a hiatus between Red Ram and God Child, so God Child begins with a quick reintroduction of the main characters and the status quo, but it’s not a standalone work at all. Heck, in the Japanese edition the whole thing is called the “Earl Cain series” and that’s it, the very first volume (The Forgotten Juliet) already has that branding. According to the original Hakusensha release I own:

Earl Cain Series 1 – Wasurerareta Juliet (The Forgotten Juliet)

Earl Cain Series 2 – Shounen no fuka suru oto (Sound of a Boy Hatching – how could anyone read, say God Child without reading this?!)

Earl Cain Series 3 – Kafka

Earl Cain Series 4 – Akai Hitsuji no Kokuin (The Sign of the Red Ram)

Earl Cain Series 5 – God Child

Triltaison wrote:

To add to the confusion, Kaine is a completely independent work and has never been published in English.

But how does Kaine come into the picture? It’s completely independent as you said, it was never released in any way that could be associated with Earl Cain.

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post OfficePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:26pm Reply with a quote
Wow things I never expected. A new sanctuary for angels!?

Honestly not a huge fan of the current art I see, but Kaori Yuki’s black and white has always been what I preferred.


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post OfficePosted: Tuesday April 12, 2022 1:39 am Reply with a quote
@SHD: Yes, that’s right. We got Godchild in the US first, so our story was disorganized and a little confusing. The first half of Godchild was published in Shojo Beat magazine, then it went straight to publication as collected graphic novels. The original volumes of Cain came out at the same time as the last half of Godchild. Consecutive issues of Shojo Beat and later Godchild volumes advertised the other Cain volumes as prequels and/or stand alone volumes. Each volume was titled with the same names as you listed them, which is why 4 had a part 1 and 2 (rather than just being volume 5).

Kaine happens to have a similar-sounding title but a different spelling. It was never officially released in the US, but in the early days of the internet, before Cain was even licensed, many western fans thought it was somehow related. I remember many fansites spreading misinformation about this when all the information in English was just a poor quality picture of the cover and a title. It’s probably been scanned for well over a decade at this point and that’s no longer a source of confusion, but it used to be a hotly debated thing back in the days of Angelfire websites and webrings. *shrug* I’m just old and I remember all the stuff.


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